Interview with Alex Benesch

The following is a transcript of the first hour of a three hour radio interview Dr. Laibow gave to Alex Benesch in Germany:

[Alex]
We are very proud to have Dr. Rima E. Laibow as our guest today. She is maybe one of the most informed people about health freedom and the concept of natural medicine and preventive medicine. She is one of the co-founders of the Natural Solutions Foundation and for the last decade she’s been on the cutting edge of various issues and one of the issues we’re talking about today is Codex Alimentarius and how Codex Alimentarius is in direct opposition to the concept of helth freedom. As we’ve said before on many occasions every crisis on a global scale is met with the idea that we can solve every crisis if we had a world government. If we had these these monolithic guidelines and we had this big government [that] tells everybody what to do and we see this in banking we see this in every area and some areas like foreign policy…they are important to many people but as we are all well aware of that health freedom and health itself is something that concerns us every day and concerns everybody. So why don’t you, Dr. Laibow, tell us how your journey went in the last couple of decades, how you woke up and what it’s been like being on the cutting edge of this.

[Laibow]
Well, first of all let me say how pleased I am to be here and how much I appreciate the opportunity to share the information and the perspective that I’ve been gaining through decades of study with your audience. I’m a physician, I was trained in a very fine allopathic Medical College called the Albert Einstein College of Medicine. I graduated in 1970 and I pursued training in psychiatry both adolescent, child and adult psychiatry as well as community psychiatry and during the time that I was in my training I saw the advent of
psychiatric drugs. And I saw that the trend toward drugging as many people as possible for as little reason as possible was galloping ahead for many reasons, the chief among which is of course the economic reason.

Drug companies make no money if people are healthy and if they are not on medications or on poisons – depending on your point of view. Now while I was in allopathic training and I say it was a fine school because using the standards of allopathic medicine it was indeed a very fine school. But using the standards of common sense and biochemistry – applied biochemistry is called nutrition after all – it was just as foolish, just as wrong-headed and just as useless as any other allopathic medical training. Of course I didn’t know that when I started but it made no sense to me as I progressed through my medical training to apply poisons to the enzyme systems of the body. And you have to be aware that every drug, every drug, works by poisoning enzyme systems. If you like the effects that you get you call them a therapeutic benefit, if you don’t like it you call it a side-effect, but every drug poisons enzyme systems. And enzymes are the stuff of life. At the same time I was aware that nutrients and other supports for the biological system do not poison enzymes. What they do is support enzymatic functioning and from that comes health. And if the systems are in balance and the psyche is in balance and the environment is not toxic, suddenly you have a robust healthy person instead of a patient. Well I saw that and I tried to point that out to my medical professors who were duly unimpressed and quiet hostile at having that perspective…

[Alex]
No kidding!

[Laibow]
…made available to them. And then I went into psychiatry where I thought I could be both educated into the inner realities of the human being and also become helpful and I saw that with the biological model of psychiatry taking over and squelching check common sense and reason there was no way to be helpful but there was a lot of opportunities to poison people on a continuing and chronic basis. So I began looking for ways to help people heal without harming them. An that meant that I became more and more interested in many aspects of natural medicine, energy medice – meaning frequency devices – energy medicine meaning healing…ancient healing systems and modern ones. Nutition, detoxification, I became an environmental physician and realized that without a clean food supply health was impossible. And then, over the years,
my good fortune or my misfortune – depending on how you want to look at it – has been that information that I need falls in front of me whether or not I think I need it at the time and if I don’t pay attention to it it falls in front of me again so I’ve learned that when trails show up I need to follow them. And one of the trails that showed up about…oh I suppose 15 years ago now is the trail of Codex Alimentarius. Now at that time virtually no one outside of the narrow circle of bureaucrats and food polica people and pharmaceutical people had ever heard of Codex Alimentarius. It sounds a bit like an intestinal parasite and in fact like a parasite it can kill you. Codex Alimentarius is Latin for Food Rules or Food Code and it’s history bears repeating – by the way you can go to the Website of the Natural Solutions Foundation which is www.globalhealthfreedom…I’m sorry…yes: globalhealthfreedom.org. We have another site which relates specifically to the United States called healthfreedomusa.org. The information is available in either place.
Globalhealthfreedom.org. So I began studying Codex and I found several interesting things. Bear in mind as the framework for all of this, that if people have access to clean, healthy unadulterated food they have far less disease than they have if the have poisoned food. And the drug companies of the world which are the single most powerful economic force on the planet. Let me say that again: The pharmaceutical industry is the single most powerful economic force on the planet. It is more powerful than oil, it is more powerful than war, although it is related to both of them. They are…they are…

[Alex]
Yes. Exactly.

[Laibow]
…siblings. The pharmaceutical industry, coming I am sorry to say out of the German holocaust, realized that it had both a problem and an opportunity. The head of IG Farben, the great German industrial war combine, was a man called Fritz ter Meer. Small t – e -r – capital M as in Mary – e – e – r. Fritz ter Meer had been the head of biopharmaceuticals, we in the United States say Bayer and he was tapped to become the head of IG Farben. Now think to yourself: Why would a pharmaceutical executive become the head of IG Farben? Ah…the flurry gets very interesting. Ter Meer was convicted of crimes against humanity at the Nuremberg war tribunal. And while sitting in jail for less than 4 years – and by the way I started to mention if you want more information on this truly earth-shattering story you can go to our website globalhealthfreedom.org or healthfreedomusa.org and you can click on the film, the video there called Nutricide, n-u-t-r-i-c-i-d-e, Nutricide. Ter Meer…and I hope you will, I hope you will click on it and I hope you will share it with your friends and with your colleagues. The story needs to be told because before people can take action and turn public policy in a different direction…

[Alex:]
We might even…we might even produce a German dub for it. I mean…

[Laibow]
I would like it!

[Alex]
We’re always looking for great material that we can make available to the German speaking audience and then we can find somebody maybe who will do some other languages. I mean you mentioned a very important point, I mean you cannot view these guidelines as something that is put out by this ominous world governmental body, you have to look at these individuals and you find that families like the Rockefellers…that they have a big hand not just in oil but also in the pharmaceutical industry and medicine. Basically the Rockefeller family…they are the progenitors of modern medicine that you so aptly described as pushing drugs on people and not really attacking the root cause of the problems.

[Laibow]
Absolutely! And if you will hold that point, put it on a bulletin board for us to come back to … as soon as I finish the point about ter Meer I want to come to that point because it’s enormously important. So ter Meer was sitting in jail for crimes against humanity and he realized that they really didn’t have to use the concentration camps and the crematoria and the whole engine of death that was created for the holocaust. Instead, all that had to happen was that the pharmaceutical industry or the german genocidalists – and please understand I am not limiting the definition of a genocidalist to one nation or another but he came out of that context, it is a global genocidal program and he was a part of it. He happened to be German. And he realized that if the genocidalists could take over the wold food supply then they could accomplish what they wanted which is the depopulation of the planet to the level that they have decided is sustainable. Which happens to be depopulating 80 minimum to 90 optimum per cent of the worlds population. This is documented in UN documents, in WHO-documents, in United States documents…

[Alex]
Yeah, Kissinger and his National Security Memo 200 and all these environmentalists and all these globalists and the owners of the media corporations, they all say the same thing and every time a Prince Phillip comes out and writes the foreword to a book where he says “I want to come back…when I die I wanna come back as a deadly virus to solve overpopulation” people say: “Oh no, that’s not important you know. He just said that, you know that wasn’t a serious comment.” But if you read deeper into their own literature, they are obsessed with depopulation.

[Laibow]
They are obsessed with depopulation. You are absolutely correct. I had a patient – I’m a physician, remember – and because I use non-toxic means to treat things which supposedly are, quote, hopeless, end quote, people come to me from all over the world so I had her faith as a patient and she brought me her kids and she brought me her chief-aids and so on. And one day this woman said: “You know I was raised to believe that the time is coming soon when it will be necessary to finish cleansing the world of useless eaters.

[Alex]
Eaters.

[Laibow]
Useless eaters. And useles eaters by the way is a term of art that began being used in Germany in 1922 and we could talk about the application of the concept of useless eaters to the Aktion T4-Program which directly led in to the death camps.

[Alex]
Oh by the way we got a report in today: One of the first actions of the new Obama administration is to lift the ban on aiding so-called family planning organizations. So basically they are now pushing again for the abortions of babies and depopulation and they are supporting groups that were crated by admitted eugenicists and admitted racists. And it’s expected that Barack Obama will again give US taxpayer money to the United Nations Population Fund which is funding the depopulation around the planet. I mean it’s all they really care about in…in…bottom line.

[Laibow]
If anyone believes that Barack Obama is different from the other operatives…although he is a very attractive human being and he is well-spoken, he has the unique capacity to speak in full sentences which we have not seen in a president for the last eight years and it’s very heartening to actually hear a thought carried through from subject to verb with adjectives that match and so on. Nonetheless, if anyone thinks that he is anything other than an operative you have only to look at his appointments. Vilsack for Secretary of State who is a Monsanto-GMO-Man, Hillary Clinton… I’m sorry, Vilsack for Secretary of Agriculture, Hillary Clinton for Secretary of State etc. Now I have to tell you on a personal note: I am a woman and believe very very
very deeply and firmly in the right of every woman to control her reproductive life, that’s part of health freedom. So I believe that that is… that the choice to terminate a pregnancy is a personal choice that must be made available to every woman on the planet. However, that is entirely different from eugenics, from forced sterilization…

[Alex]
China.

[Laibow]
…from the World Health Organization using vaccines that we now know definitively are designed to secretly induce sterility, from the Indian forced abortions and forced sterilizations so I believe – and I want to draw the line here very very carefully – I believe that part of health freedom is to decide what happens to ones own body. Indeed the very essence of health freedom is to decide what happens to ones own body and that means whether a woman has a pregnancy or not is her choice. But, at the same time, no one else can make that decision for her, no one can mass-sterilize populations and not be a criminal of the worst order.

[Alex]
And people should decide very carefully whether or not they wanna listen to an organization that was founded by a racist and an organization that is setting up these abortion clinics specifically in poor minority areas. So, yeah, I mean I agree that there should be a choice but you know these organizations always paint themselves as these humanists and philantropists and just the same as say the Rockefeller family, I mean they… the rhetoric of these people is just astounding when they carry out all these operations.

[Laibow]
But it’s very important not to throw out the right to not have the baby with the bath water. I think we must make a careful intelligent decision and definition and discrimination between personal health freedom and programs that are applied en masse making other peoples’ decisions for them.

[Alex]
Yes.

[Laibow]
For instance: In Thailand the abortive vaccine that causes a woman to become permanently sterile, which was developed by the World Health Organization Task Force on Vaccine induced Sterility, is being forced upon women of the hill tribes who are pregnant. If they dont have the vaccination then they’re told that their babies cannot get an identity card and without an identity card in Thailand you’re a non-person, you’re basically dead. And so they submit to the vaccination which causes them to abort the fetus, even in the ninth month. It causes them to lose the baby and then become permanently sterile. That is genocide, that is totally different from the right of a woman to decide whether or not she wishes to carry a pregnancy to term.

So we must make sure that we have that distinction clearly in mind and you’re right: The organizations that are being used for seemingly humanitarian purposes are indeed the genocidalists’ tools, like Codex Alimentarius to go back to that for a moment. Fritz ter Meer was in jail, he said: “Oh my goodness, we didn’t have to use all these resources and all of that manpower and all that steel on the railroad cars and so on. We could just have control of the wold’s food because he who controls the world’s food determines who lives and who dies.” So when he and the other 26 IG Farben executives who have been in jail for crimes against humanity got out of jail less than 4 years after they entered it, he called together the pharmaceutical executives who had been his underlings, who were now the heads of the newly independent – so called – pharmaceutical industry. And you must remember that Rockefeller owned the controlling interests in the entire German and European pharmaceutical industry. Back to that in a moment. So he called them together
and said: “Gentlemen, lets send a letter to the United Nations suggesting that the United Nations take over the world control of food.” Now the United Nations was a newly formed organization, also seemingly humanitarian, also seemingly designed to prevent war and increase the benefits of domestic tranquility and international harmony. And of course we know what really lay behind it. We’re looking at it, it’s asserted itself now as a true world totalitarian fascist state. So he wrote a letter, they signed it and he presented that letter to the United Nations in 1952, suggesting that the United Nations take over the wold food supply. The United Nations said: “Well, that’s really cool, yes we can do that.” And they decided that they would take over the world trade of food by setting up the Codex Alimentarius Comission which sets rules for what is and is not acceptable for every aspect of what may legally go into your mouth, except drugs. That is to say using their ominous orwellian slogan “From farm to fork”. Everything, not just supplements as many people mistakenly believe, but everything that goes into your mouth is then controlled by standards and guidelines set up by the Codex Alimentarius Comission which was founded at the UN in 1962 and jointly administered by the World Health Organization and the Food And Agriculture administration, uh Organization, FAO. WHO and FAO are like the mommy and daddy of Codex Alimentarius. Codex Alimentarius has comittees that meet virtually every week of the year somewhere in the world. There are comittees on meat and meat products, milk and milk products, fats and oils, nuts, on vegetables, on nutrition and foods for special dietary uses, on labeling and there are comittees on general principles, there are comittees on pesticide residues, there are comittees on everything you can imagine. You can go to codexalimentarius.net on the web and you can see the official structure of Codex Alimentarius. Now, Codex’ mandate says that it’s first purpose is protecting the health of consumers. In fact, Codex’ real purpose is trade and the weaponization of food. I was at a meeting in Germany of the Codex Comission on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Uses, headed by Rolf Großklaus who was also the head of BfR, as in Boy Friend Romeo, BfR, which is a German state organization that sets toxicological limits for various nasty
things. And Großklaus cut the delegate of South Africa off at the knees when she presented the concept of optimal health and he screamed at her – reducing her to tears by the way – he screamed at her: “Optimal health! Optimal health! It would be nice if Codex were about optimal health but it’s not! It’s about trade! Well, that’s very interesting.

[Alex]
There we have it.

[Laibow]
There we have it. Well there we have one piece of it. Now, remember that the pharmaceutical industry set Codex up in order to degrade food because healthy people are folks who have access to healthy food and we want people to be sick because otherwise our profits are less robust and the former president of Merck said to a pharmaceutical executive gathering – and this is famously recorded and documented: “Gentlemen, right now we are selling pills to sick people. And that’s our problem. We want to sell pills to everyone.”
The only way to do that of course is to make everyone sick. But this drug company is coming at it from both ends. So the process of Codex is that each of these comittees promulgates rules and guidelines, standards and guidelines. Those standards and guidelines are then brought to the Central Comittee which meets once a year at the Codex Alimentarius Comission and it flip-flops between Rome and Geneva. And the Comission furthers the work or adopts or ratifies what the comittees have done. Now who sits on these comittees? Well, first of all the United States is large enough and deeply involved enough to attend every single committee meeting. If you figure that it costs an average of, say, seven thousand dollars or ten thousand dollars if you’re staying at a better hotel for a delegate to attend one of these meetings and if you figure that there are about 55 of these meetings and if you figure that the United States takes a delegation typically of about 15 people and that countries like Benin check or Nigeria or Thailand cannot afford those expenses. And so they often cannot afford to attend even a single meeting, sometimes they can manage to attend one or two. Then you see that we have the big boys and of course the European Union and the European Community and each country sends delegates to each of the meetings because these are countries with far far far larger budgets and the graphed pattern is different so that the money is not being skimmed off in quite the same way as it is in the developing world, leaving so little available for other things like Codex attendance. So what happens is that the United States is a dominant dog at Codex and the United States as we all know tragically makes public policy solely and totally on the basis of what serves corporate and multinational corporate and illuminati purposes. There is no interest in what serves the needs of people either in the United States or elsewhere. And Obama has terrifyingly said that he’s going to push genetically modified food on Africa as a way of quote solving its problems. Well yeah, if you eliminate all of its people I guess you solve all of its problems. So…and by the way let me point out that genetically modified food is now definitively associated with sterility and infertility, is now definitively associated with immune system failures like cancer, is now definitively associated with what we call HIV because the virus
that is used to irritate the DNA to get it to accept the new DNA material and reproduce, the cauliflower mosaic virus is terrifyingly close to the agent that is identified as causing HIV/AIDS and mutates frequently but worse yet, it itself reduces the count of CD4 cells and the mark and definition of HIV and AIDS is a reduced CD4-level. Could it be that the people who are dying of AIDS are actually dying of their genetically modified white maize, maize 810 by Monsanto and NK 603? Is is possible that what that epidemic is really about is death by weaponized food? And the answer is: Yes indeed, it certainly is possible. Now those same two maizes or corns, as we call them in the United States are now approved for use in animal feed in the European Union. And you will remember that the 29 states of the European Union met in the UK for a secret meeting to find ways to overcome the public reluctance to accept genetically modified foods.

[Alex]
Yeah, they take our tax dollars. That’s always the funny thing about the European Union, all these different global bodies. They take our taxpayer money to finance the propaganda that we’re gonna get and we’re
supposed to comply with everything. I mean…

[Laibow]
Precisely. Well, I would say not comply, I would say submit to everything. You’re not supposed to comply, you’re supposed to simply bow down and accept like slaves. And I wanna talk about the concept of slavery a little. What is a slave? A slave is a person whose body is owned by someone else. That other person decides what happens to his body, decides what he gets to eat, decides what his health choices are, decides whether he reproduces or not. So the owner of the slave controls the use and the conditions of the slave’s
body. Obviously no one can control your mind unless they use special techniques and we can talk about that a little later.

[Alex]
Oh yeah…

[Laibow]
But the… I submit to you that if food is weaponized and health freedom is taken away from us then we are in fact all slaves. And the question for every man and woman listening to this show is: Do I wish to be a slave or
do I wish to be a free man and woman? If I wish to be a free man or a free woman, if I wish my children to be free, if I wish my country to be free, then I must take action to make sure that I control my body and my health choices because health freedom is our first freedom and it is a basic human right. Eating weaponized food that is designed to kill us, that is designed to increase multinational profits, that is designed to make us ill, is not what happens to a free man or a free woman. And let’s talk for a moment about the weaponization of food. The food that we eat leaves us under-nourished when it has been degraded and when it has been toxified. And every decision that Codex makes, every single one from my point of view as a natural physician and as an environmental physician and as a humanitarian, every decision that Codex makes takes us closer to cataclysmic under-nutrition. Now the World Health Organization, which is a schizophrenic body because it has good men and women who are striving to do the right thing under an administration that is striving to do exactly the wrong thing, the genocidal thing, because the World Health Organization has said publicly that they’re for a sustainable planet, they know that the world population must be reduced by a minimum of 80 and a maximum of 90 per cent. I would call that genocidal. The World Health Organization has defined the preventable, non-communicable diseased of under-nutrition – Let me say those words again: Preventable, non-communicable disease… epidemic; preventable, non-communicable epidemic diseases of under-nutrition – as cancer, cardiovascular disease, stroke, dibatetes and obesity. They account for most of the pharmaceutical profits in the world. Cancer, cardiovascular disease, stroke, dibatetes, obesity.

[Alex]
The cash crops of the industry.

[Laibow]
The cash crops of the industry. Well if you control food then you can assure that there is global under-nutrition. How convenient. At Codex, the United States marches in with its minions from the Department of Commerce and the Department of Agriculture but most importantly from industry. From the International Grocery Manufacturers Association, from the Biotech or Monsanto and friends organization, from the pesticide industry. These people sit on the delegation of the Unites States at Codex! They are the United States delegation, headed of course by someone usually from the FDA – a more corrupt and deadly organization is hard to imagine unless you happen to look at the United States Department of Agriculture. And then they bull through what they want and except on the issue of genetically modified foods they always get supported by their ducklings. And their ducklings are first and foremost the European Union. Yes, yes, mama duck, yes, anything you say, we agreee, we agree. And Brazil, and Argentina and India, although on nutrition India tends to oppose what the United States wants. And actually on a couple of other things India tends to oppose. Generally the great industrial or rising industrial countries of the world or regions of the world follow anything the multinationals want. And what the multinationals want is more pesticides, more contamination, more domination of the food supply by the biotech industry. In fact, Codex is run by the United States for the benfit of the bigs: Big pharma, big chema, big biotech, big agra biz and big medica because the profits are in sick people and huge, huge amounts of chemical contamination in food, biotech engineered food. And I have to remind you, Alex, that Monsanto has said that it will control the world’s food by 2010. Now people always ask: Well, what about supplements? Supplements are very interesting.
The United States has a law called the Dietary Supplements Health and Education Act, DSHEA for short, which was passed in 1994. Congresss here in the US was fixing to take away all access to dietary supplements and the American people rose up ad said: Don’t you dare! In fact, they wrote more letters than any other subject had ever received, including the Vietnam war. And I don’t need to remind you how passionate and fervent the opposition to the war was and I’m proud to say that I was one of the people passionately and fervently opposing it. So Congress did a 180 degree about face and said: Oh my goodness!

Did we say we were going to deprive you of all dietary supplements? No, no, no, no, no, no, no! We’re going to treat dietary supplements as food and nobody can regulate how many lamb chops or how much lima beans you put on your plate. And so in the same way nutrients and herbs are foods and you can decide what levels you want to take, what dosage and what forms. And the FDA said immediately thereafter that it was the worst law that was ever passed by the United States Congress and they would do everything in their power to overturn it.

[Alex]
Has there ever been a food additive, a chemical that the FDA didn’t like?

[Laibow]
Has there ever been a food additive, has there ever been an irradiation proposal, has there ever been a genetically modified patented food, has there ever been an adulteration, has there ever been an opportunity to spray food with viruses in the form of [?] that they didn’t like?

No. If industry likes it, they love it. And they attack viciously anyone who tries to disseminate truthful information about the benefits of nutritional supplements, of nutritional components, herbs and health. And in fact it was at the food labeling committee meetings of Codex when the United States bulled through the definition of forbidden advertising which is any, ANYrelationship that is made between health and food or food components. That’s illegal now under Codex. It’s also a standard that the United States is vigorously enforcing here in… or that the FDA is vigorously enforcing in the United States. Codex is voluntary. Now the countries that participate in Codex kind of at the bottom end of the feeding trough, the developing world are told that Codex is mandatory. Codex is by no means mandatory. But the stick that Codex carries is World Trade Organization enforcement. So if a country deviates from Codex or keeps out codex-approved products, they can be hit with enormous, enormous trade sactions which can cripple a fragile economy. The government of Great Britain was willing to sustain trade sanctions of 835 million dollars for a few years, each year for a few years in order to keep beef that had been tainted out of its country. But after a few years even they couldn’t support that sized sanctions. Well, consider Sao Tomé or Nigeria, there’s no way so General Stubblebine, my husband who is the president of the Natural Solutions Foundation and I in addition to going to Codex meetings then go to Africa, to Asia, to the poorest countries in the world where we meet with their presidents, where we meet with their minister of health and their minister of agriculture and we say to them after introducing ourselves: Hi, are you aware that Codex is going to kill your people? And they say: Yes, but there’s nothing we can do.

[Alex]
Oh my god.

[Laibow]
Oh yes. Because of the World Trade Organization and their sanctions. And we say: Oh yes there is! And we present them with our materials because the first thing that I did when we founded the Natural Solutions Foundation back at the end of 2004 was call together a group of what I call my good guy genetically modified lawyers. That’s a joke of course there. They are just wondeful humanitarian lawyers, if you can imagine such a thing. And I said to them: Gentlemen, Codex is a legal problem and it must be solved at the legal level. Sometimes Albert Einstein was right that you can’t solve a problem at the level at which it was created but sometimes he’s wrong, you can. And the solution to Codex is in fact in the legal level. So I said I want you to study Codex, the World Trade Organization treaties and documents and I want you to study international law and come up with a legal solution to Codex. And I can’t pay you anything for it because we had no funding to pay for your time. And these wonderful lawyers, one of whom is a trustee of our foundation and the other whom is an advisor to our foundation, spent thousands of hours pro bono and they came up wih a solution. They realized that Codex is in fact advisory and if a country chooses to take a two-step process, to carry out a two-step process, then they are free to do something different from Codex and free of the threat of trade sanctions. And General Stubblebine and I took that show on the road. We started settling for over four years, constantly we would go out for four months at a time to the underdeveloped countries, we met with the president of India, we briefed him on the Codex issue, he had never heard of Codex Alimentarius. And that’s a very interesting question: Why hasn’t anybody heard of this if it’s this important…

[Alex]
Yes.

[Laibow]
…and the answer is that like many nefarious and evil actions of the people who are not acting for our benefit but for theirs it is hidden in plain sight. Nothing about Codex appears to be secret but it’s never mentioned, it’s never focused upon, it’s ignored as a sort of bureaucratic ho-hum nothing. And even the delegates who go to Codex generally are bamboozled by the propaganda that’s very very very carefully laid out for them, that tells them that Codex is mandatory for their country – not true – that Codex is good for their countries – manifestly not true – and that Codex is the product of the Unite States superior technology and superior food safety procedure…

[Alex]
Uh-huh…right.

[Laibow]
In fact….

[Alex]
I remember…I remember as a kid, when I was a kid and my two cousins from the United States came to visit, something they would always mention was that these health products, these vitamin supplements that are on the shelves in Germany are pretty much a joke. When I wanted to import high dose vitamin and mineral supplements I had to actually …a couple of years ago, that was like…that was like before… say 2002.. I had to actually go to a pharmacy store and ask the guy to buy it for me, so I had to basically go over a middleman
to get it because as a private citizen of Germany I couldn’t order it myself. I couldn’t import it myself. Now that prohibition got lifted for the time being because of the European Union…you know free trade thing going on, this whole charade. So they said it’s all liberal now you can order it. So now we can get it but basically under Codex this will be far far worse than what we had in Germany a couple of years ago. I mean, could you paint us that picture, I mean what are these global bodies and their industry backers proposing?
What are they saying what’s dangerous and what’s not dangerous?

[Laibow]
Well, let my go back to the World Health Organization’s definition of the preventable epidemic, non- communicable diseases of under-nutrition, under-nutrition. And let’s remember that most food is commercially grown in soil that has been depleted of its minerals by overuse and over-fertilisation with the disastrously unbalanced chemical fertilizers, that most food is sprayed with pesticides and herbicides and fungicides and other poisons that make its ability to take in nutrients much more limited. The soil as I said is demineralized and that the enzymes and the biotechnology horrors that have been introduced into the food make it impossible for your body to metabolize and to use many of the nutrients that are there and remember too that in my medical practice the priciple tool that I used to reverse seemingly incurable or untreatable conditions was nutritions. So, now put that against the background and now what I’m going to say begins to make some horrifying sense. The European Food Supplements Directive which was voted in… or which went into effect in a stage, step-wise genocidal pathway, starting November 2004, is Codex-compliant. But it’s even more dangerous than the Codex standards. Now on July 4th 2005 I was sitting in Rome as an observer at the Codex Alimentarius Comission meeting when the United States jubilantly celebrated the ratification of the Vitamin and Mineral Guideline. And you can go on our site www.globalheathfreedom.org and you can read the Vitamin and Mineral Guideline or you can just do a search engine search for the Vitamin and Mineral Guideline. And you’ll see that it prohibits any nutrient which has a concentration greater than 115% of a nutrient level in an unchanged food. So if an orange has, let’s say 25 milligrams of Vitamin C then a Vitamin C supplement could not have more than 15 per cent more than that. In spite of the fact that our food is already depleted of its nutrient value and so what you’re doing is allowing a tiny tiny tiny increment over already damaged disease-producing food nutrient levels. That’s completely crazy if you’re interested in health but remember Codex is interested in genocide and Codex is interested in ill health on the way to that genocide because that’s where the profits lie. So the Vitamin and Mineral Guideline was jubilantly celebrated by the United States delegate to Codex who at that meeting was so pleased that because July 4th is our independence day in the United States he literally pulled out a box of souvenir balls, baseballs that were printed with Codex Alimentarius Vitamin and Mineral Guideline Juli 4th 2005 and threw them to the delgates, tossed them in the air and celebrated the wonderful work that had been done. The wonderful work that had been done will according to the estimates of the World Health Organization, of UNICEF, of other international bodies will result in a minimum of 3 and a half billion – that’s billion with a b – 3 and a half billion preventable deaths through the preventable epidemic diseases of under-nutrition. So you assure under-nutrition and then you sell people the substances to help them die expensively and if they can’t afford those substances, well, Codex is working very hard to eliminate all natural medicine, just as the European Herbal Products and Medicinal Herbal Products and Medicinal Directive… I’m sorry, Herbal Products and Medicinal Plants Directive is working very hard to eliminate all medicinal herbs with the exception of a very few in Europe. And the issue of which nutrients will be permitted and at what levels is being solved by BfR – you’ll remember Rolf Großklaus is the head of BfR – and he’s also the head of the Codex Committee on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Uses. That means infants, that means the ill, that means the elderly and doctor Großklaus has proven himself to be a superbly capable genocidalist from my observations. I have watched him, I have spoken to him, I have read what he has written and on our website, the Natural Solutions Foundation website globalhealthfreedom.org I have published his recommendations for the 11 permitted nutrients that the European Food Supplement Directive should allow after it goes into full implementation on December 31st 2009. Let my give you a couple of examples of what Dr. Großklaus, BfR and the European Food Supplements Directive wish to see implemented. And by the way Dr. Großklaus is a man who in 2003 at a Codex meeting said publicly that there is no relationship between nutrition and health.

[Alex]
Yes, right.

[Laibow]
Dr. Großklaus’ professional training is as a physician with a specialty in nutritional medicine. So I find that this indicates that surely he must have been asleep through his entire training because he missed biochemistry which is what nutrition rests on. At any rate I personally take 10.000 international units
of Vitamin D3 per day. Why? Because it’s been shown that people who do that have a far lower risk of cancer, of osteoporosis, of arthritis, of macular degeneration, a variety of diseases. And so I take 10.000 IU. The level that Dr. Großklaus permits and that the European Food Supplements Directive will permit is if I recall correctly 10 IU.

[Alex]
Oh my god.

[Laibow]
And that assures under-nutrition and under-nutrition of Vitamin D increases a whole range of cartaclysmic but highly profitable diseases. You notice I started with cancer, the most profitable disease ever encountered by the human species. If anyone in your audience sincerely believes that there is any interest at the official multinational industry or organizational level in finding a cure for cancer they are sadly, sadly misinformed. In my office, for nearly 40 years, I have been treating the nutritional deficits and the immune suppression from toxic chemicals that results in cancer and making the cancers go away. Now that is the quickest way in the United States to loose your license, to say that you treat cancer, so when people would say to me “Do you treat cancer?” I would say “Nope.” They would say “What?? My friend came here and you…” I’d say ”No, I treat immune suppression. I offer immune…

[Alex]
Yes.

[Laibow]
…system support through a variety of means, including inetnsive nutrition. And if a perfectly good cancer gets lost along the way, it’s not my fault. And that’s the kind of deceptive rhetoric that is necessary in order to keep a licence. I’m still licensed in the State of New York because I never said I treated cancer. The reality is that the chronic degenerative preventive epidemic diseases of under-nutrition are where the profit lies and where the genocide lies.

[Alex]
You talked in the Alex Jones Show…you talked about how back in the seventies it was basically something almost something unheard of that a child had cancer, it was an oddity, a rarity and you had physicians going to that patient and there was like this extraordinary thing but now the picture has completely changed.

[Laibow]
That’s a very very important piece of the puzzle. Children are more vulnerable to toxins, they are more vulnerable to pesticides – a special class of toxins – and the levels that pesticides are permitted at, pesticides, herbicides, fungicides – I call them the suicides chemicals, or the homicide chemicals – the levels that they’re permitted in food by Codex is truly truly astonishing and in fact at the last 2 Codex Comission meetings in July the chairman of the Codex Comission Samary lifted the upper limits for huge groups of pesticides each time so that as much as the farmers can be persuaded to use is now permitted in food. What that means to you is death and disease and yes indeed the environmental working group estimates now and the World Health Organization confirms that any child born in 2000 or thereafter for the first time in human history has a statistically greater chance of dying before its parents than the parents have a statistical chance of dying before the child. In other words: 50 per cent of the children who have been born in the year 2000 and later will die before their parents. How does that happen? Well, according to the World Health Organization by the year 2020 one child in two will either have died from cancer before his 18th birthday, his or her 18th birthday, or will have survived cancer. And indeed in 1970 when I graduated from medical school not only was autism a rare disease but cancer, other than a malignant tumor called Wilms tumor of the kidney, cancer was a rare disease. And if a child came into the hospital admitted with a diagnosis of cancer of any kind, all of the interns, all of the medical students, all of the residents were brought into that child’s room to gawk at the child. Now that is what passes for medical education, didn’t help the child any and we didn’t learn anything except that there was a poor child that was very very ill. But that’s how much of a rarity it was. Today one child in two is expected on a global basis to either succumb to cancer or survive cancer by their 18th birthday.

[Alex]
In the last radioshow I read the actual, I mean I read the current numbers. We got the numbers for Germany, the most occurring causes of death. We got the numbers for 2007. And I think it was cancer and cardiovascular, the two biggest killers.

[Laibow]
Well actually I hate to contradict you. The two biggest disease killers are cancer and cardiovascular disease. Same in the UK, same in France…

[Alex]
Yes.

[Laibow]
…same in the United States. But the real killer, according to the journal of the American Medical Association, a not very liberal organization set up by the Rockefel…or funded, it was set up before but funded by the Rockefellers to do much of its dirty work, according to the British Medical Journal, according to Lancet, according to the New England Journal of Medicine the real killer number 1 is properly used pharmaceuticals

[Alex]
Yes. Yes.

[Laibow]
So the diseases kill, actually combined, kill fewer people than properly used drugs. And we pay for them. And our governments pay for them and we say: “Thank you doctor!” And we think that we are receiving health. You can see why I say that allopathic medicine and the drug pushers who choose not to think about what they are doing – known as doctors – have no place in modern life, except in the emergency room of a hospital. And there modern medicine shines. So those life-saving procedures, all those devices and their bells and whistles and the injections directly into the heart and so on, very nice in the emergency room, but in terms of any other function in the management of chronic degenerative diseases or the prevention of chronic degenerative diseases, they have no place. I have practised medicine drug-free for almost 40 years. And my practice consists of people who are dying, who have no hope come to me and become radiantly well without the use of a single drug. Now what does that mean? That means that food has to be reclaimed. And what does that mean? It means you better start growing your own. And you will have a fight on your hands to do that.